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Samoa Joe Finally Arrives, and Other Ponderings From WWE Raw

Samoa Joe, WWE Raw, January 30, 2017By Rob Siebert
Editor, Fanboy Wonder

Not much use in leading with anything but Samoa Joe, is there?

What we saw on Raw was over a decade in the making. After so many years of speculation as to whether he’d even be considered by WWE, Samoa Joe finally arrives on the main roster. What’s more, he’s going into a program with one of their top stars in Seth Rollins. I can’t even tell you how surreal it was just to hear Michael Cole say Joe’s name.

Many were disappointed that we didn’t see Joe in the Royal Rumble Match on Sunday. Would I have put him in there? Sure. That way the mainstream audience has a better idea of who he is before he shows up here. But then again, does that chip away at the surprise element? If Joe is in the Rumble, maybe this moment isn’t quite as special.

Either way, this was about as good a debut as we could have wanted for Samoa Joe. After years of stealing the show elsewhere, he finally gets to do it on wrestling’s biggest stage. Congratulations, good sir. You deserve it.

Ponderings From Raw:

Kevin Owens and Chris Jericho open the show. Braun Strowman demands a title shot. Mick Foley announces Owens will defend against Strowman later in the show. Decent opener. The best part of this segment was Strowman demanding his shot, “or I’ll break you in half.” You know what? I believe him.

Sami Zayn, Chris Jericho, WWE Raw, January 20, 2017Interesting that Mick Foley came to Raw dressed as the Riddler. Where exactly does one get a suit like that?

Sami Zayn def. Chris Jericho. Supposedly Jericho’s current run will wrap up in May so he can go back on tour with Fozzy. Some have said this has been the best run of Jericho’s career. I wouldn’t go that far. But it’s definitely up there. He’s consistently been one of the best parts of Raw, and the show will miss him when he’s gone. The guy is 46 and he can still hit Sami Zayn with a Frankensteiner (shown right). Amazing.

This was good stuff. For the second consecutive week, Zayn is in the best match on the show. Really dug the exploder duplex into the corner. I still wish he’d start beating people with the Blue Thunder Bomb. It’s his best move.

Mustafa Ali def. Tony Nese. Raw needs more of both these guys. I adore Ali’s reverse 450 splash. It’s a damn shame we didn’t get to see it this week. It’s also a damn shame that the fans still don’t give a damn about the Cruiserweight Division. Maybe one of the reasons Neville’s run in the division has worked so well is that we’ve known him the longest. Most of these other guys are still working to establish themselves in front of the national audience. Rich Swann and Jack Gallagher have started to do it. But that’s it.

Seth Rollins calls out Stephanie McMahon, who announces Triple H is on his way to RawThis seemed very choreographed and scripted, as these talking segments often do. Still, I love how irreverent Rollins is toward Stephanie. While much of his dialogue still comes off contrived, it’s refreshing. No one has talked to her this way in so long.

Stephanie McMahon, Seth Rollins, WWE Raw, January 30, 2017Having him mention coming to her front door and having one of their kids answer was a little edgy. I get why they did it. It makes the whole thing more personal. But I’d avoid approaching that topic again. Even Stone Cold never talked about going after little kids…

Bayley, Cesaro, and Sheamus def. Charlotte Flair, Luke Gallows, and Karl Anderson. This one didn’t do anything for me. Once again, Bayley pins Charlotte. She’s somehow unbeatable on pay per view, but extremely beatable on television.

The new Cruiserweight Champion Neville addresses the crowd. Rich Swann interrupts. Scripted promos can work if you present them believably. You forget they’re saying lines. Neville did that here. Where the hell has this guy been? Pissed off Neville is the best Neville.

In contrast, any time somebody says “WWE Universe,” any integrity the scene has is lost because no one would actually say that in the heat of the moment. Sorry Rich.

Last night at the Rumble, they showed some pictures of Neville and Swann earlier in their careers. I guess they came up together? Why not go that route for this promo and make things a little more relatable?

Kevin Owens, WWE Raw, January 30, 2017Braun Strowman def. Kevin Owens via disqualification after Roman Reigns interferes. After Strowman’s interference in last night’s Universal Title Match, the finish to this one was obvious. I’m happy Owens was able to be a little competitive here, while Strowman was still kept strong against both of them.

Brock Lesnar and Paul Heyman challenge Goldberg to a match at WrestlemaniaA very predictable outcome. But yet another masterful promo by Paul Heyman. The “Yeah, but…” lines worked well.

The mentioning of Hulk Hogan beating Andre the Giant is yet another indicator that Hogan is likely on his way back. They’re planting the seeds.

Nia Jax def. Sasha Banks via referee stoppage. Byron Saxton: “How scary a sight is that? To have Nia Jax smiling, knowing that she’s gonna have her way with you.” That’s not the verbiage I would have used, Saxton…

What happened with the bell here? It rang, but the ref clearly didn’t call for it. Still, Sasha did a fine job putting Nia over, both tonight and on the Rumble pre-show. The full nelson swings into the ring post looked good.

Triple H, WWE Raw, January 30, 2017Enzo and Cass def. Rusev and Jinder Mahal in a Tornado Tag Team Match. I’ve got no use for this program anymore. Now that Enzo and Cass won this match, can we please move on?

Triple H: “Seth Rollins was a failure.” Samoa Joe ambushes Rollins. Awesome promo. I actually preferred this one to the Heyman stuff. The spinning of the narrative to where Seth owes him an apology. Hunter calling Seth an abject failure. The stuff about not being “that guy” anymore, and wearing the suit. Awesome. When Hunter is on, he’s on. I just wish we’d gotten this promo months ago, so the whole story didn’t cool off so much.

By and large, this was a strong show. Literally the best they’ve put on in months. Now we have a new face on Raw, and we’ll be seeing some of the bigger stars more regularly. Raw has been tough to watch lately. They didn’t so much fall into an autumn slump this year as a winter slump. But as always, things are picking up as we get closer to Wrestlemania.

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A WWE Royal Rumble 2017 Review – Roman Trolls the Alamo Dome

By Rob Siebert
Editor, Fanboy Wonder

Well. To be fair, they never said Roman Reigns wasn’t going to be in the Rumble Match.

So let’s take it from the top. Well, almost the top. Full disclosure: I didn’t watch the entire pre-show. I’m still having bad flashbacks from Wrestlemania XXXII, when I sat in front of my computer for seven hours. No thank you. I turned the network on just as the Sasha Banks/Nia Jax match was starting. It was exactly what it should have been, with Sasha fighting from underneath and Nia shutting her down at the end. Gallows and Anderson are also our new Raw Tag Champs, which is a nice surprise. It’s long overdue.

As for the show itself…

Charlotte Flair, Bayley, WWE Royal Rumble 2017Charlotte Flair def. Bayley to retain the WWE Raw Women’s Title. Again, this match was what it needed to be. Charlotte retains after hitting an awesome Natural Selection on the ring apron. It’s not Bayley’s time yet. Considering how great Charlotte has become, it may not be anybody else’s time for quite awhile. Simply put, she’s one of the premiere performers in that company, male or female. What I remember about this match above all is when Charlotte had Bayley where she wanted her, and then looked into the crowd. Her expression and delivery were priceless when she pointed at Bayley and yelled: “This is you!” Rumor has it they want to do a four-way at Wrestlemania with these two, Sasha, and Nia. That’s fine, I guess. But if they wanted, they could rematch these two. I felt like things were just starting to pick up.

Kevin Owens def. Roman Reigns to retain the WWE Universal Title after interference from Braun Strowman. This was a fun fight, highlighted by that bump Owens took into the stack of chairs. I can’t imagine how that must feel. I had wondered about Jericho possibly dropping something down to Owens from the cage. But I wrote it off, thinking it would somehow be more complicated than it was. Ah, the charming simplicity of gravity. I just wish Roman would have sold that brass knocks shot more. Like, a lot more. I understand he’s supposed to be Superman. But even Superman can take a rough one on the chin. Still, both these guys put on a good show. Let it never be said that Roman isn’t a tremendous athlete.

Kevin Owens, Roman Reigns, WWE Royal Rumble 2017It looks like they’re going with Roman and Strowman for the next few weeks, which could be intriguing. The unstoppable babyface (in theory) against the dominant monster. As they’re leaving the belt on Owens, there’s a very real possibility he’ll find himself across the ring from Goldberg at Fastlane.

Neville def. Rich Swann to win the WWE Cruiserweight Title. This was the move to make. I always got on Neville’s case about not having any personality. But he’s done a complete 180 as far as I’m concerned. He’s the perfect centerpiece to the Cruiserweight Division right now.

John Cena def. AJ Styles to win the WWE Heavyweight Championship. This was clearly the match of the night. Not better than their Summerslam match, in my opinion. But still quality stuff. I’m always amazed by how damn smooth Styles is. From that standpoint, you can see where a lot of the Shawn Michaels comparisons come from.

If I could have changed one thing about this match, I’d have ended it with the AA. It seemed overindulgent to have Styles take that big fall, only to hit him with the move two more times. To me, that’s the equivalent of having someone survive a powerbomb spot through a table, and then pinning them with a regular powerbomb. Why not just beat them on the big one?

John Cena, WWE Royal Rumble 2017Cena tying Ric Flair’s record of 16 Heavyweight Titles was inevitable. One would think there’d be more uproar about him beating Styles. But a lot of people seem to have really turned the corner on him. He’s always going to have his haters. But he’s endured for so long that I think the respect element has taken effect. And after everything he’s done for WWE and the wrestling business in general, he deserves it.

Randy Orton won the 2017 Royal Rumble. This match wasn’t what a lot of us wanted it to be. Once it got in the ring I think we remembered that Undertaker’s been having hip issues, and Goldberg hasn’t wrestled in about a decade. Still, they did their best with what they had. The stuff with Lesnar/Goldberg bit was fun. I’ve come to enjoy this story about Goldberg being the one person who can not only beat Lesnar, but embarrass him. And the crowed dug it. They were chanting for Goldberg before he even got out there.

There was some buzz about NXT star Tye Dillinger being entrant number 10, what with his “Perfect 10” gimmick. So I was happy to see him. But other than that, they didn’t pull any rabbits out of their hats in terms of surprises. No Samoa Joe. No former stars coming in for a big pop. I had my hopes up that they’d bring Sid in, given his role in the 1997 Rumble. He’d have gotten a big reaction, a la Kevin Nash a few years ago. No such luck.

Randy Orton, WWE Royal Rumble 2017James Ellsworth took a brutal looking fall when Braun Strowman threw him out. I was actually amused by the stuff between those two. Strowman was my pick to win, but he looked good out there. Corbin eliminating him was a surprise, though it made Corbin look like a million bucks.

Once Undertaker came out at 29, and we had all the key players in the ring, I started thinking about Finn Balor. I don’t know if he’s ready to go yet. But if he was, that would have been the perfect spot for him. Instead we got Roman Reigns, and many of us let out a collective wretch. You talk about trolling your audience. They had to know Roman would get that reaction. They had to. Then on top of that, he eliminates the Undertaker. The whole thing went over like a wet fart.

I may be giving them too much credit here, but they may have used Roman in that spot to benefit Randy Orton. Orton has never had the kind of smart backlash that Cena or Roman has had, and I think the fans like him well enough. But Randy has been a made man in WWE for years now, and he’s not exactly a new face. So having him win the Rumble Match might have been an eye roller. But compared to Reigns, Orton doesn’t look so bad, does he?

WWE Royal Rumble 2017, Undertaker, Roman ReignsOn the subject of wretch-worthy scenarios, we now have Randy Orton as the Rumble winner, and John Cena as the WWE Champion. If there’s one match we never need to see again, it’s that one. Thankfully, we have an Elimination Chamber Match for the title in just two weeks. Given the direction things have been going with the Wyatt Family, there’s now a very real chance that Bray Wyatt will go in to Wrestlemania XXXIII with the title and face Orton. It would be nice to finally see Bray in that upper echelon. They’ve made so many missteps with that character, and I expect it’ll be nice to see him reach that upper echelon.

As for Roman, it’s looking like he’s got a date with Undertaker at Wrestlemania. From a performance standpoint, I can’t say that thrills me. And if they’re still trying to get people to cheer Reigns, that seems downright stupid. But at least the crowd will be hot for it. If they thought Roman got booed tonight, wait till he’s in there with ‘Taker at Wrestlemania

All in all, a good show. Not quite as good as we were hoping for. Had they delivered more with the Rumble Match, this might have been one for the ages. But it was still solid.

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Triple H as WWE Champion in 2016, Plus Ponderings From WWE Raw

January 25, 2016, WWE Raw,, Triple HBy Rob Siebert
Editor, Fanboy Wonder

I got to watch the Royal Rumble live on the WWE Network this weekend, and on the whole I was very pleased. The undercard was great, and the Rumble Match itself was a lot of fun. It didn’t get hijacked again, which is certainly a plus.

But once again, we have controversy with the winner. Perhaps that’s to be expected at this point. Triple H is the new WWE World Heavyweight Champion, and will main event Wrestlemania XXXII in Dallas. His opponent is obviously going to be Roman Reigns.

Here’s the bottom line as far as I’m concerned: Triple H vs. Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania? Yes. Triple H defending the WWE Championship against Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania? No.

WWE Royal Rumble 2016, Triple HI understand they’re making the best of a bad situation. John Cena, Randy Orton, Seth Rollins, and so many others are out with injuries. Triple H is a big star, and one of the few true heels in WWE right now. But the fact that they had to put the title on Triple H to create a match worthy of a Wrestlemania main event (arguably) is an indictment of WWE’s failure to create new marquee stars. In a perfect world, it would be someone like Dean Ambrose or Bray Wyatt in that main event. Hell, what about Brock Lesnar? Even crowds that sit on their hands will still pop for Brock! They’re damn sure paying him like a main eventer! Why not use him like one?

I’m sure WWE will do their best to build this up. And to their credit, Reigns and Hunter have been able to create a palpable tension, which was on display at the Rumble. But all in all, this match is a disappointment. It shouldn’t have to be Triple H main eventing Wrestlemania again. Someone else should have been groomed to step in. They really chickened out with this one.

Pondering From WWE Raw:

The Rock makes a surprise appearance on Raw, mixes it up with The New Day. It’s always great to see The Rock. And it’s great to see somebody go “off the script” on this show for once. I was wondering why they were chanting “Randy Savage” at him. And of course, he and The New Day were great.

The Rock, WWE Raw, January 25, 2015The buzz surrounding The Rock is that he’s not going to be in the ring at Wrestlemania. That is, simply put, awful. They don’t need Rock quite as bad as they did a few years ago. But they could sure as hell use him. And no, not as a corner man for Roman Reigns. You put Rock in Roman’s corner, and he’ll overshadow him. Rock needs to do his own thing. What that could be at this point, I’ve got no idea. But still, Rock in a non-wrestling role is better than no Rock at all.

Roman Reigns vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Brock Lesnar announced as the main event for Fastlane. Winner will face Triple H for the title at WrestlemaniaWait…doesn’t Roman have a rematch clause? Wouldn’t that grant him a rematch automatically? Yeah I know, wanting this to make sense is sometimes too much to ask.

They really dangled that Dean Ambrose carrot in the Rumble match, didn’t they? You talk about building new stars, that could have been such a great moment for Dean Ambrose, and for the fans. No one would have seen that coming, and it could have changed the complexion of Wrestlemania completely. But alas, Triple H won. It’s encouraging that he’s still in the title picture, though.

This match is obviously just a formality. Reigns is main eventing Wrestlemania again. They practically spelled it out in the opening segment. The Wyatts will come in and cost Brock the match, and perhaps let Reigns beat Ambrose to earn the spot. Bing bang boom, Wrestlemania main event. Not a great one, mind you. But that’s what they’re going with.

Chris Jericho, AJ Styles, WWE Raw, January 25, 2016AJ Styles def. Chris Jericho. For a lot of fans, AJ Styles’ debut was the highlight of the Royal Rumble, and for good reason. To say the very least, AJ is special, and seeing him lock up with Chris Jericho tonight was special. For a lot of WWE fans, this was their first chance to see AJ wrestle a traditional match. And he couldn’t have had a better opponent than Jericho. Hopefully a win this big means they’re actually going to put some time and effort into him. But then again, Jericho has been generous with a lot of guys in his career, so perhaps hope is the best we can give right now.

I hope we see this match again soon. It seemed like Styles and Jericho were still feeling each other out a little bit, which is to be expected. But for the most part, they were still very smooth. I do wish Styles had sold the effects of the Walls of Jericho, though. A little wince or something is all I’m asking. Also, we haven’t seen the Styles Clash yet, which seems odd. Are the higher-ups afraid it’s going to injure people? I’d have to assume not, or they wouldn’t have let the announcers mention it.

So here’s an idea. They need a Wrestlemania opponent for The Undertaker in his home state. Why not AJ Styles? The Phenom vs. The Phenomenal One. Chances are they’d have a match on par with ‘Taker’s battles with HBK, Triple H, and CM Punk.

The Wyatt Family, Kane, WWE Raw, January 25, 2016Bray Wyatt def. Kane. It’s encouraging to see the Wyatts being rehabbed a bit. As I’ve said before, they spent too much time jobbing to Roman Reigns and The Undertaker last year. These guys can, and should, be the dominant faction in the company right now. But they’re not. I expect that will change as WWE preps Bray Wyatt for a match with Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania, where I expect he will lose. But a win over Brock, by hook or by crook, would go a long way in establishing Bray as one of those marquee stars WWE needs right now…

Also, Braun Strohmann is obviously being built up for something. Please don’t let it be a Wrestlemania match with The Undertaker. Another day? Maybe. But not Wrestlemania.

Sasha Banks def. Becky Lynch via disqualification when Charlotte interfered. See what a difference it makes to have a match with a story behind it, rather than just throwing them out there cold? The momentum from the Rumble definitely carried into this match. I’m pleased to see they aren’t casting Becky aside in favor of Sasha. I’m also happy we didn’t see much of Ric Flair when Charlotte came out. You could see him as she was walking back up the ramp, but that was it. They need to be careful about picking their spots with him, so he doesn’t overshadow his daughter. They did that well this week.

Sasha Banks, WWE Raw, January 25, 2016It’s interesting to see Sasha Banks positioned how she is right now. She seems to be cast as an anti-hero. But the “Boss” character is clearly a heel. Sasha hasn’t changed her demeanor at all. I’m curious to see how her character evolves (if at all) heading into Wrestlemania. The fans have been chanting “We want Sasha!” for months now, and thankfully now we have her.

Kevin Owens def. Dolph Ziggler. Really solid match between these two, as always. It’s been a big week for Owens. He and Dean Ambrose had a hell of a fight to start the Royal Rumble, and seeing Owens eliminated by Sami Zayn was one of the highlights of the Rumble Match. They didn’t follow that up on Raw, which was a disappointment. But I do hope we see them get a match at Wrestlemania. They both deserve it.

Also…what exactly did WWE offer Dolph Ziggler when he re-signed last year? It couldn’t have been a singles push. They must be paying him really well.

Kalisto def. The Miz. They corrected a major error at the Rumble, letting Kalisto take the title back. And while a win over The Miz might not mean as much as it used to, it helps solidify Kalisto as a credible United States Champion. Kudos to WWE for righting a wrong.

Bo Dallas, Flo Rida, WWE Raw, January 25, 2016Bo Dallas has a rap battle with Flo Rida…and does pretty well. Did Flo forget his lines or something? Because Bo came off better in that rap battle than the actual rapper. Considering what a big deal WWE makes out of this guy, that’s pretty sad.

Goldust tries to recruit R-Truth as his new tag team partner. In contrast to a lot of WWE’s attempts at comedy, both these guys actually have the potential to be entertaining. They’ve got a great track record in that respect, and I’d love to see what they can bring to the table. I say go for it!

Images courtesy of WWE.com.

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