New Day’s Rough Night, and Other Ponderings From WWE Raw

Stone Cold Podcast, Vince McMahonBy Rob Siebert
Editor, Fanboy Wonder

This week I stumbled across a story from StillRealToUs.com, titled: “Are Wrestling Podcasts More Interesting Than Wrestling Right Now?”

Sadly, the answer most weeks is yes. But there’s also no shortage of quality wrestling podcasts out there right now, by wrestling personalities and fans alike.

These are the shows I check out on a weekly basis. If you’re not listening to at least some of them, you’re missing out. Most of these come to you from PodcastOne or MLW Radio.

The Art of Wrestling, with Colt Cabana.
The Steve Austin Show
 The Ross Report
 Talk is Jericho
 The Jim Cornette Experience
Something to Wrestle, with Bruce Prichard
The Solomonster Sounds Off

WWE Raw, December 12, 2016, New DayPonderings From Raw:

The New Day def. Sheamus & Cesaro, and Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson to retain the Raw Tag Team Titles. I loved the announcers saying that Anderson and Gallows might be the favorites to walk out with the belts. I’m pretty sure the only team those guys can beat is Golden Truth. The biggest surprise in this match is that Anderson didn’t take the losing fall.

Cesaro had that great little sequence where he downed everybody. He even does his own little version of a 619 nowadays. Apparently it’s called the “Swiss One Nine.” So much damn star power.

This seemed rather anti-climactic. Thankfully, as we found out, it wasn’t the end.

Braun Strowman def. Curtis Axel. After refusing once again to grant him a match with Strowman, Mick Foley offers to trade Sami Zayn to Smackdown. I like this story with Zayn and Foley. It makes sense, him being the compassionate GM and all. It’s interesting what some quality build-up will do. They could have thrown Zayn and Strowman together as a filler match on Raw, much like they did with Axel here. But now I actually want to see the two of them in the ring together.

Jack Gallagher interferes in an Ariya Daivari/Lince Dorado match. Gallagher announcing he was going to interfere in the match reminded me an Attitude Era moment with Edge and Christian. They were on commentary with JR and King, and said they were going to do a “run-in.” Funny stuff. Gallagher is starting to build some steam. He even got the crowd to chant “Scoundrel!”

Chris Jericho, Kevin Owens, WWE Raw, December 12, 2016Seth Rollins host “The Rollins Report,” with his guest Kevin Owens. Roman Reigns backs Rollins up against Owens and Jericho The main event is made. Just what we need. Another talk show segment.

I had a feeling the second tag title defense was coming. But I liked that. They’ve built this record up for weeks, and they milked it for all it was worth. It’s good storytelling.

We later got a backstage segment where Foley made the second tag title match with New Day, Owens, and Jericho a triple threat tag with Rollins and Reigns. They’ve needed to do some kind of backstage segment with the former Shield members for awhile now. Something where they flat out say they’ve got a common enemy, and aren’t getting back together. This was almost that segment. Every time those two are in the ring together it feels like a Shield reunion that isn’t happening.

Brian Kendrick def. TJ Perkins. Crowd was a little too quiet on this one for my taste. I was originally a Rich Swann skeptic. But he’s clearly taken Perkins’ spot as the top babyface in the Cruiserweight Division.

A video package airs hyping the final confrontation between Sasha Banks and Charlotte Flair. The big takeaway from this segment is that the Roadblock match is the last match between these two. For now, at least. That’s what we desperately need from these two right now. Some damn closure.

WWE Roadblock 2016, Sasha Banks, Charlotte FlairIt’s looking like they’re going to give these two another pay per view main event. While I maintain that this feud has gone on too long, I say why the hell not? They’ve earned it. Especially if this really is their last one for awhile.

Bayley def. Alicia Fox. It was either going to be Alicia or Dana Brooke. And when it’s Bayley against either of those two, odds are Bayley is going to win. That’s the trouble with having so few women on your roster. This stuff gets easy to call.

Rusev and Big Cass brawl. These Rusev/Lana talking segments always go a little long for my taste. But maybe that’s the point. So it’s Big Cass and Rusev at Roadblock.

After advertising the debut of Emmalina, her debut is announced as “premiering soon.” The more they this off, the more it seems like they’re going to do a Brodus Clay type thing with Emmalina. He was hyped as this awful monster, but then came out as the Funkasaurus. Are they going to swerve us again with Emma? Or is she just stealing Eva Marie’s gimmick?

Speaking of Eva Marie…

Mick Foley grants Sami Zayn a 10-minute match against Braun Strowman at RoadblockSo what we had here between Foley and Zayn was a sort of mentor/student dynamic. I can dig that. The 10-minute stipulation is interesting. Does Zayn get anything if he wins?

WWE Raw, December 12, 2016, Sami Zayn, Mick FoleySo the thing that set Zayn off was when Foley suggested that trading him to Smackdown for Eva Marie would be an even swap. I wonder how the real-life Natalie Coyle feels about that.

The New Day def. Kevin Owens & Chris Jericho and Roman Reigns & Seth Rollins to become the longest reigning tag team champions in WWE history. That awful moment when you realize Roman Reigns has the chance to be the Universal Champion, United States Champion, and one half of the tag champs. Also, once of the announcers really should have noted that Reigns and Rollins were tag champs during their Shield days.

Mrs. Primary Ignition came in for this match. She’s got a very broad knowledge of pro wrestling. At one point she said, “I don’t even know who’s on the whose team.” A fair point. These multi-team matches can be confusing.

Nice touch having Xavier Woods wrestle in this match, as opposed to having Big E. and Kofi work both matches. It made sense, which is sometimes a lot to ask of this show.

The Philadelphia crowd was still tuckered out for much of this one. Such a shame. This was a big match. Congrats to the New Day. I think one of the reasons they’re so fun to watch is that the real-life friendship between them is so evident. Cameras don’t lie.

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Raw Ratings Decline, Buff Bagwell, and Other Wrestling-Related Ponderings

Stone Cold Steve Austin, 2015By Rob Siebert
Editor, Fanboy Wonder

We’re a little bit further from Raw this week. So we’re broadening our horizons a little bit…

Steve Austin talks WWE being “very constricted.” Stone Cold Steve Austin, perhaps the biggest star in wrestling history, recently told FOX Sports that he feels for the talent in the WWE system right now, because of how constricted it is. While he said he didn’t mean to bash the current product, he commented that it’s a “very rigid system and it’s very political.”

Hey man, you don’t have to tell us. It’s pretty damn obvious if you watch the product. It’s also pretty damn obvious if you look at the ratings, which sank to yet another all-time low this week.

There isn’t one specific thing that’s causing the ratings drop. You can blame it on the annual autumn slump, the three-hour format, scripted promos, the wrestlers’ inability to connect with the audience due to some of those constrictions Austin mentioned. But if I had to pick one specific thing to point to, it would be WWE trying to fight with their audience yet again.

Daniel Bryan, Wrestlemania XXXIIt’s not just about Roman Reigns, and WWE’s struggle to get fans to accept him as a top guy. That’s a major part of it, but it goes beyond that. It’s WWE’s refusal to adapt to things that happen organically in an attempt to give viewers what they want. Case in point: The Daniel Bryan situations that have developed during the past two Wrestlemania seasons. Fans were clamoring to see Bryan in a top spot. But WWE needed to have it’s proverbial arm twisted to make it happen at Wrestlemania XXX, and last year they simply dug their feet in and said no.

Whether intentional or not, the message WWE has been sending fans for the past several years is: “We decide who the stars are, not you.” And that takes a lot of the fun out of wrestling. While we’re clamoring for guys like Cesaro, Dolph Ziggler, and Damien Sandow to get a fair shake, WWE is digging their feet in with the likes of Roman Reigns, The Bella Twins, and even long-established stars like The Big Show and Kane. I’m not taking anything away from the talent those individuals have. But isn’t listening to your audience an integral part of being any kind of entertainment company? We demand, you supply. But for the past several years, most of our demands seem to have fallen on deaf ears.

The WWE machine may have gotten behind Stone Cold Steve Austin and John Cena, but it was the fans that made them stars to begin with. If you take that element of democracy and audience satisfaction away, then what’s the point of tuning in to begin with?

Based on how ratings have looked lately, it seems I’m not the first person that has occurred to.

Buff BagwellBuff Bagwell: “Jim Ross ruined my career.” On the subject of Austin, he spoke to Marcus Bagwell, a.k.a. Buff Bagwell, on last week’s episode of The Steve Austin Show Unleashed. Among the highlights was Bagwell blaming Jim Ross for ruining his career, spreading a story about his mother calling off some live events for him, and refusing to rehire him after he was released from WWE in 2001.

Bagwell seemed to be in pretty good spirits during the interview, which is nice. But I think it’s rare that one person is entirely responsible for ruining someone else’s career. Plenty has been said about Bagwell’s backstage demeanor at both WWE and WCW. While I’m sure not all of it is true, that much smoke means there’s usually fire of some kind. And I’m sure that disastrous WCW main event between Bagwell and Booker T didn’t help matters.

By the time this comes out, I’m sure JR will have responded via his own podcast. But in the end, what good did it do Bagwell to throw a beloved wrestling announcer under the bus like that?

Ponderings From Raw:

Seth Rollins vs. Roman Reigns officially announced for Survivor Series. Happy to hear this is taking place at Survivor Series, as opposed to TLC. I imagine we will indeed see these two in a TLC match in December, but it’ll be a Survivor Series rematch. I don’t see any reason why Rollins shouldn’t carry the belt to Wrestlemania at this point. Why not? Last year Rollins stole the title in the main event, so this year let’s have Reigns or Brock Lesnar get revenge.

Bray Wyatt, Raw, October 2, 2015Bray Wyatt claims to have “harvested the souls” of The Undertaker and Kane. The Wyatt Family look stronger than ever. When you look at Luke Harper, Erick Rowan, and Braun Strowman standing behind Bray Wyatt on TV, it’s believable that these guys could run roughshod over the entire roster.

But here’s the bad news. This promo about “harvesting souls” or whatever, really didn’t mean anything. So Bray has inherited ‘Taker and Kane’s magic pyro powers? What a load of crap. And the thing is, Bray’s delivery was still solid. So had he actually been talking about something that connected, this would have been a great promo.

The Usos return to action, join Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose and Ryback to defeat Seth Rollins, Kevin Owens, and The New Day in the main event. There’s your tag team title match for Survivor Series, right there. If WWE is smart (which is debatable), they’ll extend a program between The Usos and The New Day through the end of the year. But much like Rollins, I don’t see any reason to take the gold off The New Day before Wrestlemania.

Sin Cara, Sheamus, Raw, October 2, 2015The Lucha Dragons def. Sheamus & Wade Barrett. Putting Sheamus and Wade Barrett together as a tag team was a smart idea. Both of them were floundering as singles, but together they make a pretty formidable addition to the tag team division.

I’m pleased to see The Lucha Dragons being re-emphasized. For my money, if WWE wanted to look for new Hispanic stars, they didn’t need to throw a bunch of money at Alberto Del Rio. If Sin Cara and Kalisto were pushed in the right way, they could easily have appealed to that demographic until WWE found a new singles star. Hell, they may not have had to look far. Kalisto fits that Rey Mysterio mold. And he can do things in the ring that Rey hasn’t been able to do in years.

Paige def. Sasha Banks, Becky Lynch, and Brie Bella to become the top contender for Charlotte’s Divas Championship. This match was more about the journey than the destination. The story surrounding the Divas Title is obviously about Charlotte and Paige right now. I was pleased to see Sasha and Becky get some mic time here. Becky in particular, as she’s largely been overshadowed by Charlotte. Some time on her own would do her good.

Also, a memo to Brie Bella: Please refrain from shouting “Brie Mode!” during your matches. Brie Mode is not a thing. It never will be. Thank you.

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Rowdy Roddy Piper, Rowdy Ronda Rousey, and Ponderings From WWE Raw

Rowdy Roddy PiperBy Rob Siebert
Editor, Fanboy Wonder

Rowdy Roddy Piper passes away via heart failure at the age of 61. Like just about everyone, I was shocked and saddened to hear about Roddy Piper’s passing last week. Death via heart failure. Sadly, that’s something we’re all too used to hearing about in terms of our wrestling heroes…

What’s interesting in my case is that when I heard about Piper’s death, I didn’t think about any of his matches or promos. I thought about his appearances on The Steve Austin Show. Austin is such a great interviewer, and Piper was such a brutally honest personality, that it felt like I got to know the real-life Roderick Toombs just a little bit. Despite his abrasive, annoying personality on television, he seemed like such a gentle soul. If you haven’t heard those interviews, I highly recommend them.

Dusty Rhodes and Roddy Piper. Gone within the span of two months. It’s been a rough summer for wrestling fans.

Ronda Rousey knocks out Bethe Correia in 34 seconds at UFC 190. I’m not much of a UFC or MMA guy. But from a sheer cultural standpoint, I couldn’t help but be interested in the Ronda Rousey fight this past weekend. And dear God…34 seconds. How a person, man or woman, could consistently vanquish their shoot fight opponents in less than a minute simply boggles my mind. Those fights almost aren’t worth the pay per view money they’re so short. Almost.

Also, kudos to Rousey for dedicating the fight in part to Roddy Piper. A very classy move.

Seth Rollins, WWE Raw, August 3, 2015Thoughts From Raw:

Seth Rollins challenges John Cena to a title for title match at Summerslam, later defeats Neville in an open challenge for WWE Championship. I’ll never say that a legit injury suffered in the ring is “lucky,” especially when the injured party is the face of a promotion. But WWE basically had a hot angle fall in their laps when Rollins broke Cena’s nose. They now have a built-in babyface revenge angle for this title-for-title match at one of the biggest shows of the year. The Brooklyn crowd would have been hot for this match already, as it’s John Cena wrestling for the title. But this gives them something nice and personal to fight over.

As for the match with Neville, as thrilling as it was to watch from a physicality standpoint, this match didn’t do as much for me as one of the Cena open challenge segments. The best thing about those matches is there’s a legit chance of one of the midcarders beating Cena, because they’re wrestling for a midcard championship. There’s actually a chance the belt can change hands. To put it bluntly, did anyone actually believe Neville was going to win the WWE Heavyweight Title? Hell no.

Neville’s been around for awhile now. But the sad thing about him is I really don’t see any reason to emotionally invest in him, outside of the fact that he’s a thrilling high flyer. Yes, he’s fun to watch. But who is this guy?

WWE Raw, August 3, 2015, Brock Lesnar, Paul HeymanBrock Lesnar and Paul Heyman return to Raw. “The match too big for Wrestlemania.” That was the line that hit home for me on this one. They should put that one on the poster. Also, Heyman might have been the only person in history to refer to The Undertaker as a “submissive little bitch.”

I’m curious how much money Brock got to toss those steps in the ring and stand on them. I’m guessing it’s more than most of us will make in several years.

Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, and Randy Orton def. Bray Wyatt, Luke Harper, and Sheamus. The big buzzworthy thing about this match was that it was 2/3 of a Shield vs. Wyatt Family match. But Randy Orton and Sheamus were thrown in those third spots. I’ve honestly forgotten why Randy Orton and Sheamus are feuding. They keep saying they don’t like each other. But this program still has no fire to it. It sure as hell isn’t worthy of being put in a main event.

So it seems we are indeed getting Reigns & Ambrose against Wyatt and Harper at Summerslam. That’s fine, I guess. Why they aren’t adding Sting to the mix is anybody’s guess. They obviously want to give this year’s show a Wrestlemania-like feel. And Sting is apparently just sitting there waiting for them to give him something to do. What exactly are they waiting on?

Paige, Charlotte, Becky Lynch, WWE Raw, August 3, 2015Charlotte & Becky Lynch def. The Bella Twins. Oddly enough, what I liked about this match was that Byron Saxton attempted to do what Mike Tenay used to do early in his WCW career. He would join the announcers during a match that featured luchadores, and provide some background info on the competitors. For however long Saxton is on Raw, he should be doing this with the NXT call ups. Not just with the girls, but with Neville, Kevin Owens, the Lucha Dragons, Bo Dallas, etc. This is a chance for Saxton to prove his naysayers wrong and actually serve a purpose at the announce position.

Cesaro and Kevin Owens join Miz TV. This segment came off very scripted. But I think having Miz out there was a good thing for Owens and Cesaro. As hot as he is right now, Cesaro’s verbal skills still aren’t what WWE wants them to be. It was good to have Miz out there as a safety net of sorts. I’m definitely excited to see these two wrestle at Summerslam. Let ’em fight!

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Kevin Owens, Lana, and Other Ponderings From WWE Payback and Raw

Kevin Owens, John Cena 2, Raw, 05182015By Rob Siebert
Editor, Fanboy Wonder

Ponderings From WWE Raw:

Kevin Owens makes his first WWE TV appearance, accepting John Cena’s open challenge. Owens will face Cena at Elimination Chamber. Yet again, the John Cena open challenge segment steals the show. That’s an emphatic statement, not only about the talent Cena’s in the ring with, but Cena himself.

Obviously this segment served two purposes. It was a great promo for NXT Takeover this Wednesday, and it introduced mainstream audiences to Kevin Owens. Full disclosure: I haven’t seen as much of the real-life Kevin Steen’s work as I’d like. But his prize-fighter presentation is great, and he’s obviously got the brash attitude thing down pat. He’s also got a hell of a wit on him. Was he supposed to say he’s been wrestling longer than Cena? If that was off the cuff, then I commend him for his guts.

Kevin Owens, John Cena, Raw, 05182015The really cool thing about that final image of Owens standing on the US Title, and hoisting the NXT Title in the air, is that it meant something. Symbolically, they got what they were looking for. Had that been, say, Kofi Kingston in there during one of his runs with the belt, the image would have fallen flat, and actually hurt the credibility of the US Title. But now that Cena has been having these great matches with it week after week, what Owens did had actual heat to it. It was great build up to what is apparently going to be a match at Elimination Chamber.

It’s surreal that these two are having a match so quickly. But I can’t deny that it’s a must-see, and a great draw for those on the fence about the WWE Network. I’m hoping for a fight, and I’m guissing I won’t be disappointed.

Rusev banishes Lana from his side after she surrenders for him at Payback, later aligns herself with Dolph Ziggler. Rusev has now lost to John Cena on three straight pay per views. But creative seemed to be trying to protect him. They had him render Cena unconscious, which would have given him a win in a traditional submission match.

Lana, Rusev, WWE Raw, 05182015But nevertheless, Rusev is no longer the unstoppable brute he was when 2015 began. And now, they’ve taken away his mouthpiece. I’m still not convinced breaking them up is the right move. In the long run, WWE may have hurt Rusev.

As for what happened between Lana and Dolph Ziggler, I’m curious about what their intentions are. Are they trying to push Ziggler to greater heights by pairing him with the very popular Lana? Or was he put with her because they know he can have great matches with Rusev, and perhaps re-establish him as a monster?

There is, of course, the chance that Lana could end up heeling on Ziggler, and going back to Rusev. I’d be okay with that, but what does that do for Doph? Out of the three parties involved here, I’m most concerned about Dolph, and what this means for his immediate future.

Dean Ambrose granted a WWE Championship match against Seth Rollins at Elimination Chamber. Awesome. Any time these guys get in the ring, it’s magic. Let them main event another pay per view, and let Ambrose continue to prove his worth as a main event-level star.

Tyson Kidd, Raw, 05182015Participants announced for Intercontinental Title and Tag Team Title Elimination Chamber matches. I’m thinking Cesaro & Tyson Kidd will take the tag straps back here. However, I’d love to see the Prime Time Players win it. You’d think from a sheer marketing standpoint, having Titus O’Neil wear gold after winning his Celebrity Dad of the Year award would be a good move. But when you boil it all down, I just find O’Neil and Darren Young really entertaining, and would love to see them get larger roles on television.

As for the Intercontinental Title, Sheamus is the smart bet, whether he looks stupid or not.

Ryback impresses against Bray Wyatt and Sheamus. I was pleasantly surprised with the Ryback/Bray Wyatt match at Payback. Wyatt using his weight against the midsection of the much larger, more muscled Ryback was a good story to tell, and was ultimately a convincing way for him to go over. Ryback also sold it really well, which makes me think he’s been listening to The Steve Austin Show and The Ross Report. Austin and JR have stressed the importance of selling time and time again recent weeks.

Ryback, Sheamus, Raw, 05/18/2015“The Big Guy” also had a strong outing on Raw. I was surprised he cut Stephanie McMahon off on the mic. I’d be curious to know whether that was scripted or not. He then got to show off his strength against Sheamus, catching him with a powerbomb, and gorilla pressing him on to the announce table. Despite losing in both outings, he definitely came out looking like a winner. I don’t expect him to come out of Elimination Chamber with the IC Title. But for my money, his stock is rising.

Neville does an in-ring interview with Renee Young, and gets interrupted and attacked by Bo Dallas. Not bad. Pretty standard babyface stuff. Incidentally, was Renee Young still supposed to be in the ring when Neville asked her about his NXT Championship reign? That was the only problem I had with that portion of the show.

 I like that they’re actually doing something with Bo Dallas. In all honesty, the only things I can remember about his WWE run thus far are his first loss to R-Truth, and when he got beat up by Sting. He’s got a decent character. It just seems like they can’t come up with anything solid for him to do. Putting him with Neville, an opponent he’s fairly familiar with from NXT, is a good way to at least get him some screen time.

Roman Reigns is kept off Raw, advertised for Smackdown. I liked this. Reigns wasn’t shoehorned into anything, and it gave them something worthwhile to put on Smackdown. I’m still wondering when we’re going to get a one-on-one match between Reigns and Seth Rollins on pay per view.

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